Secular stagnation refers to a prolonged and indefinite period of slow growth and high unemployment (or subnormal factor utilization). When was the last time this happened in the United States? Most people are likely to say the 1930s. In fact, it was the 1970s.
The 1970s were tumultuous years. There was the Vietnam war, oil supply shocks, and Watergate. The anchovies had disappeared off the coast of Peru. Clothing styles ranged from dreadful to appalling. Disco music was in. It was an awful time for those of us who lived through it.
The seventies are also known for a significant slowdown in measured productivity growth. (See Cullison 1989 for a useful review of issues related to measurement and interpretation). The most common measure of aggregate productivity is called Total Factor Productivity, or TFP for short (See Hulton 2000.)
The 1970s episode was called stagflation (an era of high inflation and high unemployment).
The two low-growth regimes above were different in an important way. When the economy transitions from a high to low-growth regime, the shock of regime change produces uncertainty. Investors will naturally move resources out of capital expenditure and into safer asset classes. Here is a critical question: What are the safe asset classes when a productivity slowdown occurs? The answer to this question seems to vary across episodes.
In the 1970s, the USD and UST securities were not among the set of safe assets. This was in large part due to the "unanchoring" of U.S. monetary policy following the breakdown of the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate system. In August 1971, President Nixon announced that the USD would no longer be pegged to gold. More importantly than this, the public likely did not believe that monetary policy would keep inflation in check through other means (it took Volcker to convince the public of this several years later). The added fiscal pressures of the Vietnam war and the Great Society spending could not have helped this perception. As a result, the safe assets back then did not include government securities. Instead, investors flocked to assets outside the direct control of government, like gold and real estate.
In the most recent episode, real estate was most certainly not considered a safe asset. Investors began to walk away from real estate in 2006. They then ran way in 2008. Ironically, it was the USD and UST securities that proved to be among the most highly regarded assets this time around. This is no small part attributable to the fact that U.S. monetary and fiscal policies are presently perceived to be "anchored" (unsustainable paths for money and debt are viewed as temporary departures from a long-run stable anchor).
It's worth thinking about just how large the worldwide demand for U.S. money/debt must have grown since 2008. We can infer this enhanced demand from two observations. First, the supply of debt was increased substantially. Second, the price of that debt went up, not down (safe bond yields generally declined). What might have happened had the Fed/Treasury not intervened in the way they did?
To answer this latter question, we can look to the "hard money, tight fiscal" policy regimes in place when a low-growth regime hit the U.S. economy in 1929. In the early 1930s, short-term bond yields plummeted as today, and CPI inflation ran close to negative 10%. The unexpected and dramatic deflation--produced by an elevated demand for money against a fixed money supply--almost surely exacerbated the depth of the contraction through well-known channels.
The lesson here is that responsible monetary and fiscal policy "anchors" a regime, rendering its money/debt a safe asset. But anchoring a policy regime does not require strict adherence to a fixed asset supply rule, like the gold standard, or year-over-year balanced budgets. A credible regime will permit the supply of safe assets to expand "elastically" when the demand for the product is enhanced. Doing so can help stabilize inflation around its expected value. Of course, it is important to let the elastic snap back should economic conditions dictate. The experience of the 1970s demonstrates what can happen when a policy regime becomes unanchored.
The optimal conduct of monetary and fiscal policy over the longer term when a productivity slowdown hits is much less clear. Alvin Hansen expressed skepticism that expansionary monetary and fiscal policy could do much of anything beyond the initial shock period. If anything, it might even do some harm if, for example, such policies led to a very large public debt. Instead, Hansen favored what today we would label "pro-growth policies." His conclusions stemmed from the fact that he viewed growth slowdowns as the byproduct of slowing innovation and population growth--phenomena that monetary and fiscal policies are ill-equipped to deal with.
The situation is slightly different today in that, unlike in Hansen's time, there is presently a huge worldwide demand for U.S. treasuries. This demand stems from three major sources. First, the UST is used widely in the shadow banking sector (in repo and credit derivatives markets) as collateral, a sector that has grown significantly since the 1980s. Second, many emerging market economies want to hold USTs as a safe store of value. And third, there has recently been an added regulatory demand for USTs stemming from financial reforms like Dodd-Frank and Basel III. Because of these factors, it is likely that the U.S. economy can sustain a much higher debt-to-GDP ratio than it has in past.
Much of what one might recommend in terms of optimal policy stems from what is assumed to drive productivity (and population growth). For economies operating below the technological frontier (e.g., EMEs), productivity slowdowns might be avoided, in principle at least, through some type of policy change. However, the case is much less clear (to me) for economies operating near the technological frontier, where the Schumpetrian dynamic is more likely to govern the productivity dynamic. Some may point to the innovations produced during the second world war as example of how expansionary fiscal policy might enhance productivity growth. But surely, basic research and development can be better subsidized in a more targeted manner, without appealing to a massive and broad-based fiscal expenditure.
The 1970s were tumultuous years. There was the Vietnam war, oil supply shocks, and Watergate. The anchovies had disappeared off the coast of Peru. Clothing styles ranged from dreadful to appalling. Disco music was in. It was an awful time for those of us who lived through it.
The seventies are also known for a significant slowdown in measured productivity growth. (See Cullison 1989 for a useful review of issues related to measurement and interpretation). The most common measure of aggregate productivity is called Total Factor Productivity, or TFP for short (See Hulton 2000.)
Aside: What is TFP? Let Y denote the value of what is produced in an economy over the course of a year. Let (K,L) denote measures of the capital and labor services used to produce Y. Let F(K,L) denote an "aggregator function" that specifies the manner in which capital and labor are combined to form output. Given an assumed F and measurements on (Y,K,L), the TFP is computed as the residual TFP = Y/F(K,L). That is, the TFP measures the value of output unaccounted for by K and L. (Alternatively, think of TFP as measuring the average product of a list of factor inputs aggregated in a particular way.)The San Francisco Fed produces its own "utilization-adjusted TFP" series here. This is what what their measure of TFP looks like since 1960.
The shaded episodes were constructed using my eyeball metric, but I think that most people are likely to identify similar regions.
There is the matter of just how to interpret the productivity dynamic above. Personally, I find it hard to believe that productivity just grows in a straight line that the undulations we see above constitute measurement error. My own inclination is to interpret this pattern through a Schumpeterian lens (see here). Productivity growth appears in the form of growth-regimes. A productivity slowdown occurs when the economy switches from a high-growth regime to a low-growth regime. The economic shock is most pronounced in the first few years following a growth slowdown. (Related to this, see Zeira 1997.)
Economic theory suggests that the real rate of interest should (ceteris paribus) be low in a low-growth regime (and high in a high-growth regime). Let me compute a measure of the real rate of interest by taking the annual nominal yield on U.S. treasury debt and subtracting annual PCE inflation. Here is what the data looks like.
Well, not a perfect fit (remember the ceteris paribus part) but close enough, I think, to be intriguing. In particular, note that both low-growth regimes identified above are associated with significantly negative real interest rates. The early 1980s look odd by this view but, of course, we know that this era was associated with another type of regime change. In particular, Fed policy moved from a high-inflation regime to a low-inflation regime, with this regime change occurring in 1980 under Fed chair Paul Volcker.
Here is how the unemployment rate correlates with the real interest rate and growth regime.
Low-growth regimes beget low real interest rates and high unemployment rates. This seems consistent with Alvin Hansen's secular stagnation hypothesis (see my earlier post here). The pattern is evident in the most recent episode, as it is in the 1970s. Except nobody called it secular stagnation back then.
The 1970s may not be viewed as an era of secular stagnation because nominal interest rates and inflation were rather elevated in that episode. Secular stagnation, with its Depression-era origin, is more naturally related with low nominal interest rates and low inflation. But as the following diagram shows, secular stagnation can occur in high-inflation regimes as well as low-inflation regimes.
The 1970s episode was called stagflation (an era of high inflation and high unemployment).
The two low-growth regimes above were different in an important way. When the economy transitions from a high to low-growth regime, the shock of regime change produces uncertainty. Investors will naturally move resources out of capital expenditure and into safer asset classes. Here is a critical question: What are the safe asset classes when a productivity slowdown occurs? The answer to this question seems to vary across episodes.
In the 1970s, the USD and UST securities were not among the set of safe assets. This was in large part due to the "unanchoring" of U.S. monetary policy following the breakdown of the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate system. In August 1971, President Nixon announced that the USD would no longer be pegged to gold. More importantly than this, the public likely did not believe that monetary policy would keep inflation in check through other means (it took Volcker to convince the public of this several years later). The added fiscal pressures of the Vietnam war and the Great Society spending could not have helped this perception. As a result, the safe assets back then did not include government securities. Instead, investors flocked to assets outside the direct control of government, like gold and real estate.
In the most recent episode, real estate was most certainly not considered a safe asset. Investors began to walk away from real estate in 2006. They then ran way in 2008. Ironically, it was the USD and UST securities that proved to be among the most highly regarded assets this time around. This is no small part attributable to the fact that U.S. monetary and fiscal policies are presently perceived to be "anchored" (unsustainable paths for money and debt are viewed as temporary departures from a long-run stable anchor).
It's worth thinking about just how large the worldwide demand for U.S. money/debt must have grown since 2008. We can infer this enhanced demand from two observations. First, the supply of debt was increased substantially. Second, the price of that debt went up, not down (safe bond yields generally declined). What might have happened had the Fed/Treasury not intervened in the way they did?
To answer this latter question, we can look to the "hard money, tight fiscal" policy regimes in place when a low-growth regime hit the U.S. economy in 1929. In the early 1930s, short-term bond yields plummeted as today, and CPI inflation ran close to negative 10%. The unexpected and dramatic deflation--produced by an elevated demand for money against a fixed money supply--almost surely exacerbated the depth of the contraction through well-known channels.
The lesson here is that responsible monetary and fiscal policy "anchors" a regime, rendering its money/debt a safe asset. But anchoring a policy regime does not require strict adherence to a fixed asset supply rule, like the gold standard, or year-over-year balanced budgets. A credible regime will permit the supply of safe assets to expand "elastically" when the demand for the product is enhanced. Doing so can help stabilize inflation around its expected value. Of course, it is important to let the elastic snap back should economic conditions dictate. The experience of the 1970s demonstrates what can happen when a policy regime becomes unanchored.
The optimal conduct of monetary and fiscal policy over the longer term when a productivity slowdown hits is much less clear. Alvin Hansen expressed skepticism that expansionary monetary and fiscal policy could do much of anything beyond the initial shock period. If anything, it might even do some harm if, for example, such policies led to a very large public debt. Instead, Hansen favored what today we would label "pro-growth policies." His conclusions stemmed from the fact that he viewed growth slowdowns as the byproduct of slowing innovation and population growth--phenomena that monetary and fiscal policies are ill-equipped to deal with.
The situation is slightly different today in that, unlike in Hansen's time, there is presently a huge worldwide demand for U.S. treasuries. This demand stems from three major sources. First, the UST is used widely in the shadow banking sector (in repo and credit derivatives markets) as collateral, a sector that has grown significantly since the 1980s. Second, many emerging market economies want to hold USTs as a safe store of value. And third, there has recently been an added regulatory demand for USTs stemming from financial reforms like Dodd-Frank and Basel III. Because of these factors, it is likely that the U.S. economy can sustain a much higher debt-to-GDP ratio than it has in past.
Much of what one might recommend in terms of optimal policy stems from what is assumed to drive productivity (and population growth). For economies operating below the technological frontier (e.g., EMEs), productivity slowdowns might be avoided, in principle at least, through some type of policy change. However, the case is much less clear (to me) for economies operating near the technological frontier, where the Schumpetrian dynamic is more likely to govern the productivity dynamic. Some may point to the innovations produced during the second world war as example of how expansionary fiscal policy might enhance productivity growth. But surely, basic research and development can be better subsidized in a more targeted manner, without appealing to a massive and broad-based fiscal expenditure.
David,
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, thank you for drawing my attention to the SF Fed's utilization adjusted TFP. I was not aware of this data.
However, I think I have to disagree with this statement, even after considering the utilization adjusted TFP measure:
"The shaded episodes were constructed using my eyeball metric, but I think that most people are likely to identify similar regions."
The paper you yourself cite on the productivity slowdown (Cullison, 1989) doesn't seem to think the productivity slowdown, which most experts seem to date to about 1973, ended in 1983. On the contrary, his trend line in Chart 1 (page 10), describing the slowdown, continues right on up through the fourth quarter of 1988.
Furthermore, perhaps the leading authority on the history of US TFP, Alexander J. Field, states the following about this period in “The origins of US total factor productivity growth in the golden age” (2007, page 39):
"With the exception of services, there was an across the board decline in TFP growth rates, comparing 1966-1973 with 1948-1966, presaging decleration over the 1973-89 period, which experienced the worst (peak to peak) productivity growth in the twentieth century."
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1095949
Similarly, Bart Van Ark dates the beginning of the resurgence in US productivity growth to about 1995 (not 1983):
https://www.ceps.eu/system/files/article/2010/02/forum_van%20Ark_0.pdf
And generally speaking, in the literature on the history of US TFP, there seems to be nearly universal agreement that the productivity slowdown ran from about 1973 through about 1995.
The utiliziation adjusted TFP data to which you yourself link shows a couple of one year bursts in TFP in 1989 and 1992 which are followed by declines and multiyear stagnation. In fact, on an annual basis, utilization adjusted TFP grew at an average rate of 0.64% from 1983 to 1994, barely greater than the 0.47% rate it averaged from 1973 to 1983. This compares to the 1.91% rate it averaged from 1994 to 2005.
And so it seems to me that a dating of the productivity slowdown which is more consistent with the literature on the history of US TFP presents something of a quandary for your general thesis, as the 1980s are generally characterized as a period of high real interest rates, despite continuing stagnant productivity.
Mark,
DeleteI would be happy with dating the productivity slowdown from 1973-1995. I don't think it diminishes my thesis because the statements I made assumed "ceteris paribus."
Why were real interest rates high in the 1980s if productivity growth was slow? I attribute it to policy, first, in the form of Fed tightening in the early 1980s, and then followed by the high Reagan deficits. There are other factors that can influence the real interest rate, not just productivity growth.
And note how the real interest rate rose again during the tech boom of the 1990s.
Thanks for all the great references!
Technology is different today. To use Thiel's formulation, today's technology (and investment) is focused on the world of bits while in times past it was focused on the world of atoms. Thiel's prescription is more focus on the world of atoms. Of course, Thiel made his fortune in the world of bits, so he isn't going to be critical of it. But in the world of bits, the world centered in Silicon Valley, just how much technology is being produce? Are advertising platforms like Facebook and Google technology companies? I won't deny that the world of bits has improved my life (by allowing me to live in one place and "work" in another), but has it significantly enhanced the technology that spurs economic growth? I think not. Indeed, what it has dome is facilitate the shift of productive capital from the developed world to the developing world and with it an enormous amount of capital, income, and wealth. For that, there is no easy policy prescription.
ReplyDeleteIf you construct a graph of real interest rates using Moody's AAA bond yields and the consumer price index for urban consumers then the real interest rate shows two sharply negative episodes between 1973 and 1981 (not unlike your graph) but no similar negative rates during the Great Recession. After the middle of 2012, in fact, the real interest rate has ranged from 2% to 4%.
ReplyDeleteWhat is common to the two periods is a fall in real net private domestic investment to real GDP. See http://www.philipji.com/item/2015-06-29/making-sense-of-the-productivity-puzzle. But the causes are substantially different. In the first period it was probably due to a crowding out of private investment (because of government expenditure on the war). In the recent period the fall in real net private investment to GDP was prompted by a fall in personal consumption expenditure (because consumers who lost a huge part of their net worth in the housing and equity market crashes raised their saving rate).
I am wondering whether the use of the fixed-weighted national accounting system pre 1996(?) distorts the productivity calculations. In the 1980s, computer and other new technology goods prices were declining rapidly. These problems were purportedly fixed with the introduction of chain weighted accounting in the mid 1990s.
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I do not know, but maybe somebody out there does!
DeleteThanks for posting this. Good read. I have one issue that I may be misunderstanding. Are suggesting that the effects of the low growth regime in the 70s manifested themselves differently from the current low growth regime because market participants had a lower tolerance for high debt/gdp levels?
ReplyDeleteWhile i agree that the US is able to sustain much higher Debt-to-GDP ratios currently, debt/gdp ratios were modest during the 70s (25-35) and minuscule relative to the WWII levels (>100). Accordingly, i find that argument difficult to believe.
Could you clarify?
Thanks.
Yes, I agree that the debt-to-gdp ratio was low in the 70s (having declined more or less steadily since the end of WW2). But evidently, expectations matter more. With the unanchoring of monetary policy following the break down of Bretton Woods, and mounting fiscal pressures, the US dollar and US treasury were no longer viewed as the safe asset when the economy turned south in the early 1970s. I'm not sure how else to explain the rise in inflation and nominal interest rates. Do you have another explanation?
DeleteI don't, but you have to admit that attributing the impact to high debt/gdp ratios when they were falling and extremely low seems odd. Expectations play a role, definitely, but in the 30s not even emerging markets have thresholds that low. Do you agree?
DeleteInteresting post. You cover a lot of ground.
ReplyDelete"Disco music was in. It was an awful time..."
Perfect :)
"... demand for USTs stemming from financial reforms like Dodd-Frank and Basel III. Because of these factors, it is likely that the U.S. economy can sustain a much higher debt-to-GDP ratio than it has in past."
Interesting conclusion. Just to make it explicit, the higher debt to which you refer is public, not private debt.
Yes. (And I don't mind disco anymore.)
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